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From: sef@kithrup.com
Subject:  Re: Nathan
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>     Actually, I believe Nathan's last name is Dark Clouds, rather than Two 
>Clouds.

Yes.

>     However, I will repeat my call for the ultra-posting of Moran's -- anyone 
>have it handy?

You mean the timeline?  Here are his two postings, found on an archive
site (forget where).  Oh, they're edited somewhat because there were
non-ASCII characters in them.

           D A N I E L   K E Y S   M O R A N
                     P.O. Box 667
                  Van Nuys, CA 91408
            *********NEWS RELEASE*********
                    August 13, 1992
  
 Okay, in response to the questions, for those of you
 who asked. (This is a very lengthy document; if you
 wish to download it rather than read it on-line, it
 *may* be available on your system as CONTTIME.TXT).
  
 1). There is a new Continuing Time novel. It's called
     "The Last Dancer," and it's set principally in
     2076, though there is a lengthy section set 50,000
     years in the past. The book is principally about
     Denice Castanaveras, during a TriCentennial
     Rebellion. Trent is in the book for about one
     hundred pages; as I said, it's mostly Denice's
     story.
  
     "The Last Dancer" expands the stage on which events
     are taking place; you'll finally learn something
     substantial about the Continuing Time at large, as
     opposed to learning only about post-Unification
     Earth.
  
     The book is more than twice as long as "The Long
     Run", which is part of why it took as long to write
     as it did. Also I got divorced midway through it;
     and then my editor had a baby, so she couldn't edit
     it for about five months; and then Bantam fired
     her, along with a whole bunch of other people . . .
  
     The upshot is that "The Last Dancer" is completed,
     Bantam has it and has paid for it; but the book may
     not see publication for nine months or a year,
     until Bantam has the first draft of the *next*
     Continuing Time novel in hand.
  
     You will *never* have to wait this long again for a
     new book from me. My promise to everyone who wrote
     . . . and wrote . . . and wrote . . .
  
 2.  The Continuing Time novel I'm currently at work on
     is "Lord November: The Man-Spacething War." It's
     set in approximately 2680, six hundred years after
     the Trent/Denice stories. It's another very big
     novel, and the first Continuing Time novel that's
     really *set* out in the Continuing Time. Its
     principal characters are Tyrel November, one of
     Denice Castanaveras' descendants, and Bodhisatva
     Sill, a Pinkerton Agent who also happens to be a
     Trentist, a member of the Exodus Church, aka "The
     Church of His Return."
  
     "Once there was a thief, and the thief was God..."
  
     I think you'll like it.
  
 3.  There are two more novels coming about the Trent
     you have come to know and argue over. Unlike "Last
     Dancer," Trent will have about as much time on
     stage as in "The Long Run." The two books are due
     soon after "Lord November" -- and I do mean soon.
     They'll be published pretty much back to back.
  
              "You say you want a Revolution
                       Well you know
             We all want to change the world."
                   Lennon & McCartney
                      COMING IN 1994:
               THE DISCOVERY OF STAR TRAVEL,
                  THE PASSING OF AN ERA,
                AND THE END OF THE STORY OF
                      MOHAMMED VANCE,
                   DENICE CASTANAVERAS,
                            AND
                   TRENT THE UNCATCHABLE
                      P L A Y E R S:
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                   Book One: The AI War
                   Book Two: Revolution
  
 4. And to close, some news about "The Long Run," and
    "Emerald Eyes," the novels that got everyone's
    attention in the first place.
  
    A. There is a "Long Run" screenplay. It's being
       shopped around Hollywood as we speak. It covers
       events in both "Emerald Eyes" and "The Long Run."
       Copies are available directly from yours truly at
       $80 a pop. $40 of this goes to either AIDS
       Project L.A., or RLA (Rebuild L.A.). The other
       $40 is approximately what it costs me (time and
       expense) to have a copy of the screenplay
       printed, bound, and mailed. (You get to decide
       which of those two worthy causes your extra $40
       goes to.) Receipts will show contribution.
  
    B. Copies of EE and TLR. *Damn* good question. If
       anyone out there finds a place where they can
       buy copies, let me know. I'd be interested.
  
       On a (slightly) more optimistic note, my editor
       said that Bantam would be re-issuing EE & TLR
       when "The Last Dancer" comes out. Of course, this
       was right before they fired her....
  
       Several people have requested that I make EE &
       TLR available as data files -- a sort of literary
       "shareware." I actually find this an attractive
       idea, and I'm thinking of releasing some short
       Continuing Time fiction this way -- write if
       you're interested -- but for EE &  TLR, I can't.
       Except for screenplay rights, Bantam essentially
       owns those novels -- I was 24 and naive when I
       signed those contracts.
  
       Inevitably all fiction will be available
       digitally; I'm disinclined to fight the
       inevitable, even if I thought it a bad thing,
       which I don't.
  
    C. R. Talsorian Games is currently negotiating with
     Bantam for the rights to do a "Long Run" module
       for their "Cyberpunk" RPG. RTG seems serious, but
       I have no idea if anything will come of it; I'd
       like to see it happen, but Bantam controls the
       game rights to TLR, not me.
  
       This does not mean there will not be a
       "Continuing Time" based RPG, even one with Trent
       in it; however, it may be based on scenarios from
       "The Last Dancer" or "The AI War," stories to
       which I control the rights.
  
    D. Capstone Studios, a startup graphics company in
       L.A., run by John Dismukes & Geoff Miller,
       is by an odd coincidence also currently
       negotiating with Bantam for the rights to do a
       "Long Run" graphic novel. Once again, I have no
       idea if anything will come of this, and it's out
       of my hands. *However,* it looks very likely that
       "The AI War," the next Trent book, *will* be done
       as a graphic novel, possibly even before book
       publication, regardless of whether or not "The
       Long Run" ever sees such publication. I *do*
       control the rights to that.
  
 I want to thank everyone out there who's kept the faith
 with me these last three years. The stories are coming;
 I haven't abandoned Trent or Denice or my readers, or
 myself. I've been working on the Continuing Time since
 I was thirteen, and I'm not stopping now.
  
  
       Titles in quote marks are individual novels;
       the rest are short stories.
       
       THESE ARE THE TALES OF THE CONTINUING TIME:
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
                                                   DATE:
                                                   -----
 VOLUME ONE: "IN THE BEGINNING..."
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Starcloud...................Previous Cycle of the Wheel
 Spacethings..............................7 Billion B.C.
 The Revolt of the Living...............4.5 Billion B.C.
 The Time Wars..........................3.5 Billion B.C.
 The Continuing Time.........................62,000 B.C.
 "The Last Dancer: The Dancer"...............48,000 B.C.
 The Painsharing of Ifahad....................5,800 B.C.
 The Lord in His Castle..................540 to 589 A.D.
 Remembrance........................................1963
 Driving in the Dark................................1982
 "Emerald Eyes: The Ancestors"......................2030
 The Shepherds......................................2049
 "Emerald Eyes".....................................2062
 Faster than the _Wind_.............................2063
 "The Long Run".............................2069 to 2070
   o  The Last Summer of His Youth
   o  The Long Run
   o  The Wall
 "The Last Dancer:  Spring 2072"....................2072
 "Bordered in Blue".................................2072
   o  Sea Songs
   o  Death Songs
 The Mechanism of Desire............................2074
 "The Last Dancer"..........................2075 to 2076
   o  Summer: 2075
   o  Spring: 2076
   o  Back to the Beginning: Dvan's Story
   o  The TriCentennial Summer
   o  The Last Dancer
  
  
 VOLUME TWO: ON THE ROAD TO REVOLUTION
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "Players, Book One: The AI War"............2078 to 2080
   o  Trent the Uncatchable and the Temple of 'toons
   o  The Big Boost
   o  A Good Hair Day (The Lay of the Rose)
   o  The AI War
   o  Trent's Return
 Moving.............................................2082
 "Walk Against the Wind"....................2087 to 2090
 "The Last Detective".......................2090 to 2091
   o  Master of the Fucking Obvious
   o  Deathjokes, Part One
   o  Catch Me If You Can
 "Players, Book Two: Revolution"............2090 to 2100
   o  The Telepath, the Politician, and the Thief
   o  Deathjokes, Part Two
   o  The Light From the Crystal
   o  The Voyage of the Dauntless
   o  A Revolt in 2100
  
  
 VOLUME THREE: THE WAR WITH THE SLEEM
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "A Song as Yet Unsung".....................2111 to 2119
 "A Tale as Yet Untold".....................2121 to 2139
 "Legend"...................................2145 to 2149
  
  
 VOLUME FOUR: THE EXODUS FROM EARTH
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 The Corridor of Dawn...............................2290
 "The House of November"....................2291 to 2294
   o  Ares
   o  Sondra
   o  Richard: the First Lord of November
   o  Lorn
 The Lords of Shadow................................2309
 The Left Handed Hunter.............................2341
 "Kinderjim on Earth"...............................2347
 "The Serendip, the Starclouds,
         and the Scout".....................2349 to 2361
   o  Discovery
   o  Looking for Home
 "Domain"...................................2382 to 2389
   o  Homecoming Day
   o  The Domain of Kinderjim
   o  Domain
 "The Always Rising of the Night"...........2468 to 2501
      (Being the  true  story  of  Our  Lady  of
      Nightways, Ola  Blue, who  was Lady  Blue,
      who was Leiacan of Eastersea.)
 Honorable Enemies..................................2614
 "Lord November:
         The Man-Spacething War"............2676 to 2682
 The Face of Night..................................2696
  
  
 VOLUME FIVE:  CAMBER'S WAY
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "Young Camber".............................3000 to 3018
   o  Young Camber
   o  The Darkness Has a Name
   o  The Hunted Man
 "The Winding Way Home".....................3022 to 3030
   o  The Song of Camber and S'Reeth
   o  The Song of S'Reeth and the Freebooters
   o  The Old Humans
   o  Mithian the Mercenary
   o  Homecoming Day 3030
 "Lord Camber"..............................3036 to 3038
   o  The Traveler
   o  Cities in the Darkness
   o  The Borderland of Night
 "Camber's Way".....................................3040
  
  
 VOLUME SIX:  THE TIME WARS
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "Comes A Man"..............................3106 to 3107
 "In Time of Legend"..........................Irrelevant
 "All of the Things That You Are".............Irrelevant
 "In All of Your Brilliance:
         The Writings of Camber"........3397; Irrelevant
  
  
 VOLUME SEVEN:  THE FAILURE OF THE MAP
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "Platformer"...............................2964 to 3031
 Shiva..............................................3042
 Chauki November....................................3392
 The Return of the Ultimate Webdancer...............4600
 The High Servant...................................7822
 "Anarchist"................................8864 to 8976
   o  The Last Lord of November
   o  The Way the World Ends
   o  Anarchist
 "End of Empire"....................................9082
 "Monument: The Day of Its Release"...............10,400
      (In which the Chained One, Creator of the
      Great Wheel of Existence, is released; the
      Starclouds and the Zaradin return; heroes
      who died before die again; and the
      Continuing Time draws to an end.)
 The Cold Time..............................circa 12,000
 
  
  
 Related Works (fictional and otherwise):
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "The Encyclopedia of the Continuing Time" (Non-Fiction)
 "Tales of Old and New Earth"
   o  Other Times and Other Places
   o  Tales of Old and New Earth
 "The Way off the Wheel"
      (In the universal heat death, as the Great
      Wheel of  Existence collapses around them,
      a group of heroes searches for the Way off
      the Wheel.)
 "The Collapse of the Levels"
      (A fantasy trilogy unlike _anything_ you
      have ever seen before, deeper and more
      detailed than "The Lord of The Rings." Of
      course you won't _get_ to see it for about
      twenty years; a trivial enough wait for a
      classic of this magnitude.)
 And, Last But _Certainly_ Not Least:
 
                       T R I N I T Y
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                        Earth Angel
                         Sun Magic
                 The Poet of the Apocalypse
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
 NOTICE: The preceding is copyright 1992 by
 Daniel Keys Moran. It may be disseminated
 freely so long as the information contained
 herein is not altered in any way. The author
 can be reached at Box 667, Van Nuys, CA 91408.


